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1991 Topps Variations - toadfan106 - 06-30-2008 I know this some of this information probably resides in the Error and Variations thread, but I don't want to weed through 20 pages of that thread. I am trying to come up with a somewhat definitive list of variations in the 1991 Topps Baseball set. Here is the list that I have so far: 9 Darrin Fletcher - (a) no sheet designation (b) sheet designation (F* I believe) 49 Pat Borders - (a) 40 steals in Kinston 1986 (b) 0 Steal in Kinston 1986 80 Fernando Valenzuela - (a) 104 ER in '90 Tied League Lead (b) Led League 97 Brady Anderson - (a) â??Sept 2 RBI and 3 Hitsâ? (b) â??Set, 3 RBI and 14 Hits 100 Don Mattingly - (a) 10 Hits in 1990 (b) 101 hist in 1990 131 Checklist 1 - (a) #727 Phil Bradley (b) #727 Phil Bradley 155 Dwight Evans - (a) Lead league w/162 games in 1982 (b) tied for lead w/162 Games in 1982 167 Randy Tomlin - (a) Harriburg (b) Harrisburg 236 Frank Tanana - (a) Tied for lead w/269 Kâ??s on 1975 (b) Lead League w/269 Kâ??s in 1975 270 Mark McGwire - (a) 1987 Slug % 618 (b) 1987 Slug % .618 279 Jose Gonzalez - (a) Photo Billy Bean (b) correct photo 306 Lonnie Smith - (a) 136 Games in 1990 9b) 135 Games in 1990 324 Ron Kittle - (a) set another standard (b) tied another standard 337 Keith Comstock - (a) Cubs logo on front (b) mariners logo on front 366 Checklist 3 - (a) #19 Carl Nichols (b) #119 Carl Nichols 378 Wilson Alvarez - (a) 1989 & 1990 minor league stats deleted (b) stats included 461 Robin Ventura - (a) grey inner border (b) red inner border 454 Kevin Appier - (a) 1990 Omaha Stats deleted (b) stats included 526 Moises Alou - (a) 37 runs in 2 games for 1990 Pirates (b) 0 Runs in 2 games 527 Checklist 4 - (a) #105 Keith Miller #719 Kevin McReyolds (b) #105 Kevin McReyolds #719 Keith Miller 588 Mark Whiten - (a)Hand inside border (b)hand outside border 593 Mike Walker - (a) 1990 Canton Stats deleted (b) Stats included 599 Greg Myers - (a) 1990 Syracuse stats deleted (b) Stats included 603 Wes Chamberlain - (a) Photo Louie Meadows (b) correct photo 656 Checklist 5 - (a) 348 Palacios, 381 Lind, 537 Lavalliere (b) 438 Palacios 537 Lind 665 Lavalliere © 433 Palacios 674 Kevin Gross - (a) 1988 Tied for lead (b) 1988 Lead league 687 John Cerutti - (a) 4.46 ERA in 1990 (b) 4.76 ERA in 1990 692 Efrain Valdez - (a) Born 6/11/66 (b) Born 7/11/66 706 Brad Arnsberg - (a) 68.2 IP in 1990 (b) 62.2 IP in 1990 780 Randy Myers - (a) 15 Career losses (b) 19 Career losses All of the cards with an A* and B* print designation have either a bold logo or a regular logo. I believe that these are all generally accepted by the hobby as variations. There are a couple of others that I have heard mentioned but I am not sure what they are: Chris Hoiles, Scott Coolbaugh and Robin Ventura. I have also heard about (I believe) that the C* sheet comes with the red box where the player's name is on the back in either a bold or regular version (the topps logo is not bold). I have compared some of my cards and it does seem that this is similar to the bold logo version for the A and B sheets. Anyone have any thoughts on whether or not this is a printing error or a legitmate variation. I am going to search EBAY to see if there are any others posted there - I know there are a number of cards with an E*F* sheet designation and I believe that some of them were corrected, but I only have one version of them. If you have any additional variations to add to this list, please let me know and if possible, post a scan. For the purposes of this exercise, I am not considering wrong back/fronts as variations, but rather printing mistakes. Thanks. 1991 Topps Variations - soxfan4004 - 06-30-2008 2008 Standard Catalog: No 461a (Grey inner photo frame) and 461b (Red inner photo frame) Robin Ventura . I always thought it more brown than grey, but anyways there is a difference. here's a scan 1991 Topps Variations - onionring9 - 06-30-2008 I've heard of some green ink variations where there is some green ink smudge marks on many of the cards...don't know much else about that though. I picked a McGwire version up. Not sure if it is legit though 1991 Topps Variations - 011873 - 06-30-2008 I think EVERY card in the set has a 40 year anniversary variation. On the back of each card is a "ghosted" 40 ann. logo with most being very faint pink. But you can also find dark RED logos which arent "ghosted" 1991 Topps Variations - toadfan106 - 06-30-2008 011873 Wrote:I think EVERY card in the set has a 40 year anniversary variation. I haven't seen any dark red logo that weren't from the A or B sheets. If you have any that are from the other sheets, I would definitely be interested in seeing them. Onion - do you have a scan of the green ink cards. I think they might just be a printing error, but if I know what to look for, I can check out my cards. Soxfan - thanks for the scan, that is extremely helpful. I did notice from the last box that I broke (which seems to contain the error version of most of the cards) that the cards printed from the D sheet are on a different color card stock than the others (it is dark grey rather than light grey). Does anyone know anything about this? 1991 Topps Variations - soxfan4004 - 07-01-2008 I don't have a scan, but according to the catalog the Chris Hoiles variation 42a (white inner photo frame) and 42b (grey inner border frame) seems to be of the same nature as the Ventura variation. Also I seem to remember there was some talk of the logo on the back being missing altogether on some cards, but cannot verify that. Perhaps someone on here knows. 1991 Topps Variations - onionring9 - 07-01-2008 I'll try to get you a scan of the green smudge later this evening. Here are the ghost/bold varations. As you can see for McGwire there are 4 variations of this card (bold correct, bold error, ghost correct, ghost error) then possibly a 5th with this green smudge error I'll try to scan later. I'm pretty sure the above post was correct that this exists for every card: 1) Bold correct 2) Bold error 3) Ghost correct 4) Ghost error 1991 Topps Variations - 1989 Fleer Bill Ripken Collector - 07-01-2008 5A Cal Ripken Orioles [F*] listed before copyright 5B Cal Ripken Orioles [E* F*] listed before copyright 9A Darrin Fletcher Phillies [F*] listed before copyright 9B Darrin Fletcher Phillies [E* F*] missing before copyright 13A Mariano Duncan Reds [A*] listed before copyright 13B Mariano Duncan Reds [A* B*] listed before copyright 42A Chris Hoiles Orioles white inner photo frame 42B Chris Hoiles Orioles gray inner photo frame 49A Pat Borders Blue Jays 1986 Kingston SB listed as 0 49B Pat Borders Blue Jays 1986 Kingston SB listed as 40 54A Gary Mielke Rangers [A*] listed before copyright 54B Gary Mielke Rangers [A* B*] listed before copyright 63A Milt Thompson Cardinals [A*] listed before copyright 63B Milt Thompson Cardinals [A* B*] listed before copyright 72A Junior Ortiz Twins [A*] listed before copyright 72B Junior Ortiz Twins [A* B*] listed before copyright 76A Jerry Browne Indians [A*] listed before copyright 76B Jerry Browne Indians [A* B*] listed before copyright 80A Fernando Valenzuela Dodgers no diamond after 104 ER in 1990 80B Fernando Valenzuela Dodgers diamond after 104 ER in 1990 83A Daryl Boston Mets [A*] listed before copyright 83B Daryl Boston Mets [A* B*] listed before copyright 87A Tracy Jones [F*] listed before copyright 87B Tracy Jones [E* F*] listed before copyright 97A Brady Anderson Orioles 3H, 2RBI in Sept. scoreboard 97B Brady Anderson Orioles 14H, 3RBI in Sept. scoreboard 100A Don Mattingly Yankees 10 hits in 1990 100B Don Mattingly Yankees 101 hits in 1990 120A Joe Carter Padres [A*] listed before copyright 120B Joe Carter Padres [A* B*] listed before copyright 123A Greg A. Harris Red Sox [A*] listed before copyright 123B Greg A. Harris Red Sox [A* B*] listed before copyright 131A Checklist Phil Bradley is #727 131B Checklist Phil Bradley is #717 153A Bryan Harvey Angels [A*] listed before copyright 153B Bryan Harvey Angels [A* B*] listed before copyright 155A Dwight Evans Red Sox 1982 162 G has diamond on back 155B Dwight Evans Red Sox 1982 162 G missing diamond on back, [A*] listed before copyright 155C Dwight Evans Red Sox 1982 162 G missing diamond on back, [A* B*] listed before copyright 167A Randy Tomlin Pirates Harriburg in 1989-90 167B Randy Tomlin Pirates Harrisburg in 1989-90 170A Carlton Fisk White Sox [A*] listed before copyright 170B Carlton Fisk White Sox [A* B*] listed before copyright 177A Reggie Harris Athletics [A*] listed before copyright 177B Reggie Harris Athletics [A* B*] listed before copyright 178A Dave Valle [A*] listed before copyright 178B Dave Valle [A*B*] listed before copyright 190A Matt Williams Giants [A*] listed before copyright 190B Matt Williams Giants [A* B*] listed before copyright 213A Frank Wills Blue Jays [A*] listed before copyright 213B Frank Wills Blue Jays [A* B*] listed before copyright 223A Allan Anderson Twins [A*] listed before copyright 223B Allan Anderson Twins [A* B*] listed before copyright 233A Al Leiter Blue Jays [F*] listed before coypright 233B Al Leiter Blue Jays [E* F*] listed before coypright 236A Frank Tanana Tigers no diamond after 269 SO 1975 236B Frank Tanana Tigers diamond after 269 SO 1975 237A Rick Cerone Yankees [A*] listed before coypright 237B Rick Cerone Yankees [A*B*] listed before coypright 248A Tom Gordon Athletics [A*] listed before copyright 248B Tom Gordon Athletics [A* B*] listed before copyright 250A Dennis Eckersley Athletics [A*] listed before copyright 250B Dennis Eckersley Athletics [A* B*] listed before copyright 265A Mark Gubicza Athletics [A*] listed before copyright 265B Mark Gubicza Athletics [A* B*] listed before copyright 270A Mark McGwire Athletics 1987 SLG 618 270B Mark McGwire Athletics 1987 SLG .618, [A*] listed before copyright 270C Mark McGwire Athletics 1987 SLG .618, [A* B*] listed before copyright 272A Jeff King Pirates [A*] listed before copyright 272B Jeff King Pirates [A*B*] listed before coypright 279A Jose Gonzalez Dodgers Billy Bean photo, left handed batter 279B Jose Gonzalez Dodgers correct photo, right handed batter 284A Bill Spiers Braves [A*] listed before copyright 284B Bill Spiers Braves [A* B*] listed before copyright 290A Steve Sax Yankees [A*] listed before copyright 290B Steve Sax Yankees [A* B*] listed before copyright 297A Manny Lee Blue Jays [A*] listed before copyright 297B Manny Lee Blue Jays [A*B*] listed before copyright 306A Lonnie Smith Braves 136 G 1990 306B Lonnie Smith Braves 135 G 1990 312A Charlie Hayes Phillies [A*] listed before copyright 312B Charlie Hayes Phillies [A* B*] listed before copyright 314A Gary Pettis Rangers [A*] listed before copyright 314B Gary Pettis Rangers [A* B*] listed before copyright 324A Ron Kittle Orioles [6 Home Runs] and [Set anotherâ?¦] 324B Ron Kittle Orioles [7 Home Runs] and [Tied anotherâ?¦] 337A Keith Comstock Mariners logo, no break in border 337B Keith Comstock Cubs logo 337C Keith Comstock Mariners logo, break in upper border (NPD) 345A Len Dykstra Phillies [A*] listed before copyright 345B Len Dykstra Phillies [A* B*] listed before copyright 346A Jesse Orosco Indians black line on front cuts off bottom of position and name (NPD) 346B Jesse Orosco Indians position and name on front fully visible on front 366A Checklist Carl Nichols #19 366B Checklist Carl Nichols #119 378A Wilson Alvarez White Sox no 1989 Port Charlotte stats 378B Wilson Alvarez White Sox 1989 Port Charlotte stats listed 382A Mackey Sasser Mets [A*] listed before copyright 382B Mackey Sasser Mets [A* B*] listed before copyright 384A Gerald Perry Athletics [A*] listed before copyright 384B Gerald Perry Athletics [A* B*] listed before copyright 401B Barry Bonds Pirates [National League] letters on front fully visible 416A Randy Milligan Orioles gray border (NPD) 416B Randy Milligan Orioles black border 422A Rick Reuschel Giants [A*] listed before copyright 422B Rick Reuschel Giants [A* B*] listed before copyright 452A Bill Schroeder Angels [A*] listed before copyright 452B Bill Schroeder Angels [A*B*] listed before copyright 454A Kevin Appier Athletics 1990 Omaha stats listed 454B Kevin Appier Athletics no 1990 Omaha stats, [A*] listed before copyright 454C Kevin Appier Athletics no 1990 Omaha stats, [A* B*] listed before copyright 459A Tom Trebelhorn Braves [A*] listed before copyright 459B Tom Trebelhorn Braves [B*] listed before copyright 461A Robin Ventura White Sox gray inner frame at left 461B Robin Ventura White Sox red inner frame at left 461C Robin Ventura White Sox purple inner frame at left 463A Dwight Smith Cubs [A*] listed before copyright 463B Dwight Smith Cubs [A* B*] listed before copyright 475A Teddy Higuera Braves [A*] listed before copyright 475B Teddy Higuera Braves [A* B*] listed before copyright 478A Kurt Stillwell Athletics [A*] listed before copyright 478B Kurt Stillwell Athletics [A* B*] listed before copyright 480A Dave Magadan Mets [A*] listed before copyright 480B Dave Magadan Mets [A* B*] listed before copyright 481A Eddie Whitson Padres [A*] listed before copyright 481B Eddie Whitson Padres [A*B*] listed before copyright 509A Glenallen Hill Blue Jays [A*] listed before copyright 509B Glenallen Hill Blue Jays [A* B*] listed before copyright 526A Moises Alou Expos 37 R 1990 Pirates 526B Moises Alou Expos 0 R 1990 Pirates 527A Checklist Kevin McReynolds #719 527B Checklist Kevin McReynolds #105 532A Kirk McCaskill Angels [A*] listed before copyright 532B Kirk McCaskill Angels [A* B*] listed before copyright 538A Bip Roberts Padres [A*] listed before copyright 538B Bip Roberts Padres [A* B*] listed before copyright 584A Kevin Brown Rangers [A*] listed before copyright 584B Kevin Brown Rangers [A* B*] listed before copyright 588A Mark Whiten Blue Jays hand inside left border 588B Mark Whiten Blue Jays hand over left border 593A Mike Walker Indians no 1990 Canton-Akron stats 593B Mike Walker Indians 1990 Canton-Akron stats listed 599A Greg Myers Blue Jays 1990 Syracuse stats missing 599B Greg Myers Blue Jays 1990 Syracuse stats listed 603A Wes Chamberlain Phillies Louie Meadow photo, with bat 603B Wes Chamberlain Phillies correct photo, no bat 610A Andres Galarraga Expos [A*] listed before copyright 610B Andres Galarraga Expos [A* B*] listed before copyright 622A Jack Daugherty Rangers [A*] listed before copyright 622B Jack Daugherty Rangers [A* B*] listed before copyright 642A Hal Morris Reds [A*] listed before copyright 642B Hal Morris Reds [A* B*] listed before copyright 644A Chuck Crim Braves [A*] listed before copyright 644B Chuck Crim Braves [A*B*] listed before copyright 650A Jack Clark Padres [A*] listed before copyright 650B Jack Clark Padres [A* B*] listed before copyright 656A Checklist Palacios #348 656B Checklist Palacios #433 656C Checklist Palacios #438 664A John Farrell Indians [A*] listed before copyright 664B John Farrell Indians [A* B*] listed before copyright 667A Kent Anderson Angels [A*] listed before copyright 667B Kent Anderson Angels [A* B*] listed before copyright 674A Kevin Gross Expos no diamond after 89 BB 1988 674B Kevin Gross Expos diamond after 89 BB 1988 676A Scott Chiamparino Rangers [F*] listed before copyright 676B Scott Chiamparino Rangers [E*F*] listed before copyright 677A Bill Ripken Orioles [A*] listed before copyright 677B Bill Ripken Orioles [A*B*] listed before copyright 687A John Cerutti Blue Jays 4.46 ERA 1990 687B John Cerutti Blue Jays 4.76 ERA 1990 692A Efrain Valdez Indians no text below stats 692B Efrain Valdez Indians has text below stats 696A Steve Olin Indians [F*] listed before copyright 696B Steve Olin Indians [E* F*] listed before copyright 706A Brad Arnsberg Rangers 1990 IP Stat listed as 62.2 innings 706B Brad Arnsberg Rangers 1990 IP Stat listed as 68.2 innings 716A Bob Geren Yankees [A*] listed before copyright 716B Bob Geren Yankees [A*B*] listed before copyright 724A David Segui Orioles partial green inner border 724B David Segui Orioles full black inner border 756A Jeff Huson Rangers [A*] listed before copyright 756B Jeff Huson Rangers [A* B*] listed before copyright 780A Randy Myers Reds career losses 15 780B Randy Myers Reds career losses 19 781A Darryl Hamilton Braves [A*] listed before copyright 781B Darryl Hamilton Braves [A*B*] listed before copyright 783A Joel Skinner Indians [A*] listed before copyright 783B Joel Skinner Indians [A* B*] listed before copyright 785A Scott Fletcher White Sox [A*] listed before copyright 785B Scott Fletcher White Sox [A* B*] listed before copyright 1991 Topps Variations - onionring9 - 07-01-2008 1989 Fleer Bill Ripken Collector Wrote:270A Mark McGwire Athletics 1987 SLG 618 Are you sure they have B* printed on the copyright? I have never seen one... 1991 Topps Variations - 1989 Fleer Bill Ripken Collector - 07-01-2008 onionring9 Wrote:1989 Fleer Bill Ripken Collector Wrote:270A Mark McGwire Athletics 1987 SLG 618 From the source it was a confirmed version. They have it listed as easy to find. I'll PM you the contact info and maybe someone there can provide a pic or extra copy. |