[pbean]

what would you prefer as a collector

Hobby boxes of old where you would get 1-2 RC's (that would hold their BV longterm) and maybe the chance of getting a decent insert or Sp ..... and a really "hot box" would contain ONE patch card or auto

or .....

the Hobby boxes of today that come loaded with RC's, memorabilia, autos, patches etc. etc. where the base RC's have little value and inserts and/or SP's are in every pack.

Myself I prefer the first ..... finding a refractor used to be a big deal, a #d insert of a popular player was always the talk of the LCS, and a mem card or auto was the "case hit".

Card values always held their own, if you wanted that one RC of your favorite player you had to spend large, and just the thought of finding a auto'd RC was a big deal in itself

What are your thoughts
pbean

[bazooka joe]

I prefer the first by a wide margin. The market is saturated with single jersey pieces and they are worth very little now. That leads to rookies and inserts being worth even less, which ruins all the fun. You shouldnt have to pull a patch auto of a superstar to get your moneys worth.

[coachlew10]

(05-27-2011 11:23 AM)pbean Wrote:  what would you prefer as a collector

Hobby boxes of old where you would get 1-2 RC's (that would hold their BV longterm) and maybe the chance of getting a decent insert or Sp ..... and a really "hot box" would contain ONE patch card or auto

or .....

the Hobby boxes of today that come loaded with RC's, memorabilia, autos, patches etc. etc. where the base RC's have little value and inserts and/or SP's are in every pack.

Myself I prefer the first ..... finding a refractor used to be a big deal, a #d insert of a popular player was always the talk of the LCS, and a mem card or auto was the "case hit".

Card values always held their own, if you wanted that one RC of your favorite player you had to spend large, and just the thought of finding a auto'd RC was a big deal in itself

What are your thoughts
pbean

Man, I really like the autos. But I can see what you are saying, especially about these jersey pieces. All I want are games used ones, not these event used ones like we saw on another post regarding the Rookie Premiere Photo Shoot. Way to many of those type of jerseys. A lot of people want those "sick" looking patches and don't care if it was worn or not. I don't know if can ever go back to old way, but a movement back in that direction, I would be in favor of.

[collinsfanatic]

Old school all the way

[pbean]

(05-27-2011 11:25 AM)bazooka joe Wrote:  I prefer the first by a wide margin. The market is saturated with single jersey pieces and they are worth very little now. That leads to rookies and inserts being worth even less, which ruins all the fun. You shouldnt have to pull a patch auto of a superstar to get your moneys worth.

well said

I remember the day when if you pulled the RC out of the box at the LCS you got the "hit" and everyone tried to trade anything and everything for it, now you pull a second string wide recievers RC auto and everyone gives you condolences for getting a crappy hit

this has really perplexed me of late and now that I see 2011 cards with RC auto print runs in the 1,500's why do they even bother to make base RC's anymore

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(05-27-2011 11:27 AM)coachlew10 Wrote:  Man, I really like the autos. But I can see what you are saying, especially about these jersey pieces. All I want are games used ones, not these event used ones like we saw on another post regarding the Rookie Premiere Photo Shoot. Way to many of those type of jerseys. A lot of people want those "sick" looking patches and don't care if it was worn or not. I don't know if can ever go back to old way, but a movement back in that direction, I would be in favor of.

heck, we all love our autos but they're not "special" anymore imho

[mik253]

My thought is that we are OLD !!!! I miss those kind of boxes myself and I also enjoy some of the newer product as well.

[chibearsboy]

(05-27-2011 11:23 AM)pbean Wrote:  what would you prefer as a collector

Hobby boxes of old where you would get 1-2 RC's (that would hold their BV longterm) and maybe the chance of getting a decent insert or Sp ..... and a really "hot box" would contain ONE patch card or auto

or .....

the Hobby boxes of today that come loaded with RC's, memorabilia, autos, patches etc. etc. where the base RC's have little value and inserts and/or SP's are in every pack.

Myself I prefer the first ..... finding a refractor used to be a big deal, a #d insert of a popular player was always the talk of the LCS, and a mem card or auto was the "case hit".

Card values always held their own, if you wanted that one RC of your favorite player you had to spend large, and just the thought of finding a auto'd RC was a big deal in itself

What are your thoughts
pbean

at 44 i grew up with the older wax and had the best times busting the 72-78 topps wax from our local woolworths drugstore in highland park illinois in my youth.. i have to say i have NEVER had that kind of feeling with modern boxes... hunting for walter,doug buffone,butkus and any league leaders dual insert.. the team checklists and saving all the cowboys cards for the kid with the funny accent who lived down the street...Jeb i think his name is...Hmmmm.....pbean? i think it is good memories from our child hood thet makes it so fun to open old school now... i will buy an old box or packs here and there but i wish i could find more around that werent priced out of this world...
OLD SCHOOL I SAY!
: )

[pbean]

(05-27-2011 11:37 AM)mik253 Wrote:  My thought is that we are OLD !!!! I miss those kind of boxes myself and I also enjoy some of the newer product as well.

your "old" ..... good God I'm at least 15-20 years older than you ..... guess that makes me "vintage" lol

and yes, we still do love todays boxes but I'll never pass up the chance to bust a box from the "old days"

[jmilitano]

Old school, old school, old school!

[pbean]

(05-27-2011 11:41 AM)chibearsboy Wrote:  at 44 i grew up with the older wax and had the best times busting the 72-78 topps wax from our local woolworths drugstore in highland park illinois in my youth.. i have to say i have NEVER had that kind of feeling with modern boxes... hunting for walter,doug buffone,butkus and any league leaders dual insert.. the team checklists and saving all the cowboys cards for the kid with the funny accent who lived down the street...Jeb i think his name is...Hmmmm.....pbean? i think it is good memories from our child hood thet makes it so fun to open old school now... i will buy an old box or packs here and there but i wish i could find more around that werent priced out of this world...
OLD SCHOOL I SAY!
: )

I remember all the eraser marks on my checklists as you added and traded cards away lol, boxes full of California Golden Seals that you couldn't give away lol ..... Mark "the Bird" Fidrich ..... was totally stoked pulling my first Score Barry Sanders RC ..... still have that card today