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Someone explain this to me. :)
05-07-2011, 06:32 AM
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Someone explain this to me. :)
Ok, I had a member offer me two cards I need. I decided to look them up and immediately got confused. Both are from an insert set, one is the GU version of the other. The base insert card is /249, but the GU version is /299. There are really more of the GU version than the base insert version? Is there anyone that wants sets made like this? I don't understand how this makes any sense. I would think logic would go:

Base (of main set or insert set) is the most common
Base parallel(s) are subsequently harder to find.

An example would be:

Card A (base version) - 5,000 copies
Card A Silver - 1,500 copies
Card A Gold - 750 copies
Card A Platinum - 250 copies
Card A Titanium - 100 copies
Card A Game Used Swatch - 50 copies
Card A Patch - 25 copies
Card A Autographs - 10 copies
Card A Patch/Autograph - 1 copy

No way should any personal effect from the player be any more common than the base card, never. Straight up dumb thinking if you ask me, and it kills the value of mem/au cards.

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05-07-2011, 06:38 AM
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Are you sure that is the run.

I have seen cards #'d diff. than what Beckett says.

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05-07-2011, 06:41 AM
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(05-07-2011 06:38 AM)thelegendjerryrice Wrote:  Are you sure that is the run.

I have seen cards #'d diff. than what Beckett says.

Yep, I'm sure. I have even seen some in my personal collection. I'll try and find some this weekend and post scans.

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05-07-2011, 07:33 AM
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(05-07-2011 06:32 AM)xstreaminsanity Wrote:  Ok, I had a member offer me two cards I need. I decided to look them up and immediately got confused. Both are from an insert set, one is the GU version of the other. The base insert card is /249, but the GU version is /299. There are really more of the GU version than the base insert version? Is there anyone that wants sets made like this? I don't understand how this makes any sense. I would think logic would go:

Base (of main set or insert set) is the most common
Base parallel(s) are subsequently harder to find.

An example would be:

Card A (base version) - 5,000 copies
Card A Silver - 1,500 copies
Card A Gold - 750 copies
Card A Platinum - 250 copies
Card A Titanium - 100 copies
Card A Game Used Swatch - 50 copies
Card A Patch - 25 copies
Card A Autographs - 10 copies
Card A Patch/Autograph - 1 copy

No way should any personal effect from the player be any more common than the base card, never. Straight up dumb thinking if you ask me, and it kills the value of mem/au cards.

+ 1... yes we're getting flooded by GU's out there. Any single player has more GU varieties in a year currently than they did varieties of actual cards in the early 90s.

I agree though... dumb logic by the card company.

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05-07-2011, 07:40 AM
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The hall of fame USA cards are that way. My jersey cards are easier to find than some of the base. The market being flooded with GU is old news. I guess the manufactures decided that it was too late to change so Panini went with the staus quo.

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05-07-2011, 01:58 PM
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It's like with the donruss inserts - all the base are limited, the Sapphires, Rubies, GU's, Primes, press proofs and AU's are numbered, but there's no print run on the Emerald die-cuts.



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05-15-2011, 02:09 AM
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I kind of have the same feeling with the 20010-11 Upper Deck North Carolina cards.

My man Zwikker has three cards:

base - no serial, fair enough
parallel - numbered to 50
auto - no serial number... what?

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05-15-2011, 02:15 AM
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i have 2009-10 court kings artistry kevin durant #d/249 and the jersey version #d/299 i thought that was really wierd.
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05-16-2011, 04:46 PM
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Since the market is now being flooded with GU and Autos (Panini-flooding with market with autos), for example 2010-11 Prestige has I believe 10 Autos of John Wall and Panini Threads has 4 and Limited has 8...that is already 22 autos and that is not including all the Panini products...what is next...the players right/left testicle? LOL!!! Come on...I liked it more when the GU and Autos and low S/N cards were harder to pull...it made busting packs more exciting because you knew you would were going to have a valueable card regardless of the player...nowadays I see autos and low numbered selling for 5 or less...go figure...huh!

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05-16-2011, 05:24 PM
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(05-16-2011 04:46 PM)arod0770710 Wrote:  I liked it more when the GU and Autos and low S/N cards were harder to pull...it made busting packs more exciting because you knew you would were going to have a valueable card regardless of the player...nowadays I see autos and low numbered selling for 5 or less...go figure...huh!

true. i have been trying to get a Luc Longley autographics for a while now. every time one appears on the 'bay it goes for over $40.. and we're not talking a NBA superstar or legend or anything..

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