11-28-2011, 03:56 AM
i remember awhile back that there was a way a bgs card was graded in priority i.e. 1. centering 2.corners 3.edges 4. surface. or was it
1.centering 2.edges 3.corners 4. surface.
1.centering 2.edges 3.corners 4. surface.
11-28-2011, 03:56 AM
11-28-2011, 06:36 AM
(11-28-2011 03:56 AM)beckettdah Wrote: [ -> ]i remember awhile back that there was a way a bgs card was graded in priority i.e. 1. centering 2.corners 3.edges 4. surface. or was it
1.centering 2.edges 3.corners 4. surface.
You were right the first time. It's Centering, Corners, Edges, Surface.
11-28-2011, 11:09 AM
That order you stated Jason (nolan5000) only applies to the order they look at a cards qualities,,,, not in how they are computed in a card's grading algorithm,,,,,
Just so you don't get our friend beckettdah there confused,,,,,,
Every issue has known qualities that are looked at,,,, notes are made & the database built up around what they see in the grading room,,,,,,, after a while an algorithm may be tweaked based on whats found,,,,
If your looking for just a few things to concentrate on ANY card with any grading company,,,,, corners and centering are where its at,,,,
Both are the two most noticeable "eye appeal" detractors and minor discrepancy's in either one generally affect the appeal of the card itself,,,,
On ebay you will find cheap "jewelers loupe" items,,,, buy one,,, use it to look at corners,,,,,
Centering you should be able to eyeball it,,,,,, if you can't tell centering from looking than get a bunch of card issues where centering is VERY noticable,,,,, say a Topps/Fleer/Donruss 1990's issue where they have defined pics inside a bordered card,,,,,, ebay has TONS of cards where the centering may vary from a near mint 8 up thru perfect,,,,, spend time viewing some if you still can't tell after say a month see me I'll put together a montage of pictures of centering in the different grading levels,,,,
Hope some of this info helps---
Jeff
,,,
Just so you don't get our friend beckettdah there confused,,,,,,
Every issue has known qualities that are looked at,,,, notes are made & the database built up around what they see in the grading room,,,,,,, after a while an algorithm may be tweaked based on whats found,,,,
If your looking for just a few things to concentrate on ANY card with any grading company,,,,, corners and centering are where its at,,,,
Both are the two most noticeable "eye appeal" detractors and minor discrepancy's in either one generally affect the appeal of the card itself,,,,
On ebay you will find cheap "jewelers loupe" items,,,, buy one,,, use it to look at corners,,,,,
Centering you should be able to eyeball it,,,,,, if you can't tell centering from looking than get a bunch of card issues where centering is VERY noticable,,,,, say a Topps/Fleer/Donruss 1990's issue where they have defined pics inside a bordered card,,,,,, ebay has TONS of cards where the centering may vary from a near mint 8 up thru perfect,,,,, spend time viewing some if you still can't tell after say a month see me I'll put together a montage of pictures of centering in the different grading levels,,,,
Hope some of this info helps---
Jeff
,,,
12-01-2011, 08:03 AM
I picked up a couple BGS 9.5 1989 Upper Deck Griffey's to do just that: measure the centering. From what I found, perfect equal 1/8 inch white space along each side and along the top. Does that sound about right?
What about the back? If the front of the card is perfect, but the back is off-centered, how much does the back affect the grade?
What about the back? If the front of the card is perfect, but the back is off-centered, how much does the back affect the grade?
(11-28-2011 11:09 AM)jeffv96masters Wrote: [ -> ] That order you stated Jason (nolan5000) only applies to the order they look at a cards qualities,,,, not in how they are computed in a card's grading algorithm,,,,,
Just so you don't get our friend beckettdah there confused,,,,,,
Every issue has known qualities that are looked at,,,, notes are made & the database built up around what they see in the grading room,,,,,,, after a while an algorithm may be tweaked based on whats found,,,,
If your looking for just a few things to concentrate on ANY card with any grading company,,,,, corners and centering are where its at,,,,
Both are the two most noticeable "eye appeal" detractors and minor discrepancy's in either one generally affect the appeal of the card itself,,,,
On ebay you will find cheap "jewelers loupe" items,,,, buy one,,, use it to look at corners,,,,,
Centering you should be able to eyeball it,,,,,, if you can't tell centering from looking than get a bunch of card issues where centering is VERY noticable,,,,, say a Topps/Fleer/Donruss 1990's issue where they have defined pics inside a bordered card,,,,,, ebay has TONS of cards where the centering may vary from a near mint 8 up thru perfect,,,,, spend time viewing some if you still can't tell after say a month see me I'll put together a montage of pictures of centering in the different grading levels,,,,
Hope some of this info helps---
Jeff
,,,
12-01-2011, 08:12 AM
(12-01-2011 08:03 AM)cylegreenwell Wrote: [ -> ]I picked up a couple BGS 9.5 1989 Upper Deck Griffey's to do just that: measure the centering. From what I found, perfect equal 1/8 inch white space along each side and along the top. Does that sound about right?
What about the back? If the front of the card is perfect, but the back is off-centered, how much does the back affect the grade?
Here's a link that I hope will help:
http://www.beckett.com/estore/helpsys/vi...icleId=257
12-01-2011, 10:28 AM
(12-01-2011 08:03 AM)cylegreenwell Wrote: [ -> ]I picked up a couple BGS 9.5 1989 Upper Deck Griffey's to do just that: measure the centering. From what I found, perfect equal 1/8 inch white space along each side and along the top. Does that sound about right?
What about the back? If the front of the card is perfect, but the back is off-centered, how much does the back affect the grade?
Well they look at front and back as part of the whole centering sub grade. I have several cards centered perfectly on front but they are off center on the back and wound up with poor centering subs (like 7.5 or 8.0). So having a perfect front centering is not going to help if the back is way off.
12-02-2011, 12:43 AM
That's what I figured. Thanks! That helps!
(12-01-2011 10:28 AM)rusty222 Wrote: [ -> ]Well they look at front and back as part of the whole centering sub grade. I have several cards centered perfectly on front but they are off center on the back and wound up with poor centering subs (like 7.5 or 8.0). So having a perfect front centering is not going to help if the back is way off.